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Mordakai · Jun 02, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Zcoins sounds pretty fair so long as you get the numbers right. I'm thinking a few silver for a basic change and gold for a gender or name change.

LOL, what?

IF this is done, the price should be through the roof.

15 gold z coins for basic change, 30 gold z coins or more for gender.

Name change should NEVER be in game reward. Too easy to exploit.

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Originally Posted by Solas

Yeah but then we really are moving into item shop territory.
I'd say a nice number of players would leave straight out if that happened.

IMO, buying a Large Equipment bag is the equivalent of buying a Storage Slot.

It's not FoW armor or anything.

$10 for 15 gold z coins sound fair?

Yawgmoth · Jun 02, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Even if it was limited to just hairstyle changes for ZCoins, it would be a great addition to the game. But ofcourse all other options should be there aswell.

Ingame looks change should cost an ingame currency. People who pay real $$ for this kind of thing are just 'tarded, just like those who buy ingame gold for real $.

ajc2123 · Jun 02, 2009, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

/signed

there needs to be an alternative way for all thoses players, which simple dont want or better said CAN'T pay the stylist with real money, like for example preteen kids in most of all cases, which makes the whole feature unfair and not well thought out.

If your family can't fork up 10 dollars

1) You shouldn't be playing GW in the first place, Spend your money and time more wisely
2) don't get it and simply change your armor.

Once again. Name changes, Stylist and makeovers are LUXURIES, not only in GW but in many games. Micro transactions are a good thing and definatly the way to go.

This isn't like the BMP where they had actual GAMEPLAY (the missions), this is a visual luxury. Keep it as it is.

Eazy Duz It · Jun 02, 2009, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Anet is basically promoting buying gold inadvertently by saying buy different pixels with real world cash. Lame. Make overs - Lame. Name Change - Even more ridiculous.

Munkypoo7 · Jun 02, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

if u don't like how ur character looks, pay to have it look different. otherwise, deal with the way it looks because u are the one that made it look that way in the first place.

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

If your family can't fork up 10 dollars

1) You shouldn't be playing GW in the first place, Spend your money and time more wisely

Agreed on both point, not signed :P

ajc2123 · Jun 02, 2009, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by Eazy Duz It

Anet is basically promoting buying gold inadvertently by saying buy different pixels with real world cash. Lame. Make overs - Lame. Name Change - Even more ridiculous.

Last time I checked you can't buy a set of FoW armor let alone an ID kit with real life money.

Honestly wtf man.

Shayne Hawke · Jun 03, 2009, 12:01 AM // 00:01

I have no objection to it since it's a feature requiring some sort of long over-time gameplay.

Angelica · Jun 03, 2009, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

if u don't like how ur character looks, pay to have it look different. otherwise, deal with the way it looks because u are the one that made it look that way in the first place.

What you say is true,

but .... yes there is a but, when people made they characters there were not so many choices as there are now.
/Angelica

headlesshobbs · Jun 03, 2009, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Well personally I wouldn't count that as a good excuse for charging money just because it's a nice convenience. When I paid $9.99 for the bonus pack, it felt like I got something of value because of all the content and rewards I could gain. At least the price matched it's value. Now something like the stylist/name/gender change pops up which is just a couple strings of code and BOOM, "It's Nickel and Dime Time!!!" That's just Bull****! If this were to make any sense, they would at least have made an effort to bundle it together and make its use unlimited via Zaishen coins due to what it can do for everyone in the long term.

What really bothers me comes from half of this community supporting the way it was structured to begin with. Even if Anet could change it, we're gonna have people grieving like babies just because of how much they've paid (blown) and so on, so on. So wow folks, WE JUST NERFED YOUR INVESTMENT! WOOOOOOOO!!! Sad thing to see but hey I got an idea, we change this maybe we could add some nice bonuses to your account just for your trouble? At least something could work this way to keep our "supported customers" happy and possibly be bought later as a shop addition for others since they're still charging the fire imp to others who already have all campaigns + expansion....

Just think about it for a while.

ajc2123 · Jun 03, 2009, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by headlesshobbs

Well personally I wouldn't count that as a good excuse for charging money just because it's a nice convenience. When I paid $9.99 for the bonus pack, it felt like I got something of value because of all the content and rewards I could gain. At least the price matched it's value. Now something like the stylist/name/gender change pops up which is just a couple strings of code and BOOM, "It's Nickel and Dime Time!!!" That's just Bull****! If this were to make any sense, they would at least have made an effort to bundle it together and make its use unlimited via Zaishen coins due to what it can do for everyone in the long term.

What really bothers me comes from half of this community supporting the way it was structured to begin with. Even if Anet could change it, we're gonna have people grieving like babies just because of how much they've paid (blown) and so on, so on. So wow folks, WE JUST NERFED YOUR INVESTMENT! WOOOOOOOO!!! Sad thing to see but hey I got an idea, we change this maybe we could add some nice bonuses to your account just for your trouble? At least something could work this way to keep our "supported customers" happy and possibly be bought later as a shop addition for others since they're still charging the fire imp to others who already have all campaigns + expansion....

Just think about it for a while.

This argument is based on opinion.

While you obviously don't think the price matches the content, other people do.

Ebony Shadowheart · Jun 05, 2009, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Anet does need to have a means to provide some profit from GW, which is why they have the store.

Honestly, the $10 you spend to 'makeover' a character, is the same as it would cost you to get another spot and roll a new one. The makeover simply means you don't have to rebuild, so I feel its fair as it is.

If Anet offers the makeover for any 'reasonable' (as you people term it) amount of zcoins, then they'll be losing income, which really isn't good for business. We would like to continue to see updates and such would be we not? We'd love to actually see GW2 at some point in our lifetimes, right? They gotta make money to pay those people, even if they have to do it through micro-transactions.

Now, if Anet were to sell the zcoins in the store (like Mordakai suggested) then perhaps changing it so that you could purchase a makeover with them would be fair; however in all likeliness you'd probably end up paying the same amount for the zcoins as you would to just straight out purchase the makeover.

Just my 2 cents.

/notsigned

EDIT: Boy if I could spell today, it'd be a miracle. lol.

Tender Wolf · Jun 05, 2009, 07:53 PM // 19:53

/signed

$10 to change the way your character looks, $15 to change its name? I agree that $5 should be max for both of those options. And what's with 15 gold Zaishen coins for the biggest equipment pack? It's only 5 slots bigger than the pack that costs 5 gold Zaishen coins.

But yeah I'd rather have makeover/name change credits than the equipment packs for Zaishen coins but at a reasonable price, not like 150. 50 for an everlasting crate of fireworks is too much, and it would be too much for a name change/makeover.

But yes, signed for a reasonable price.

Also, if the money is going to Guild Wars 2 that's great, but I agree that we should see some of the progress they're making. The beta was supposed to be last year and the game released this year. Now they're talking late 2010, and lots of people like myself are disappointed at that. So it would be nice to see some progress that our funds are making.

tonini · Jun 06, 2009, 09:22 PM // 21:22

any ingame way of changing looks on your char is better than paying zcoin or no zcoins even if it was once per char then afterwards forcing you to pay
/signed

however by the amount of people who have already purchased stylist very very unlikely it will change

Xsiriss · Jun 06, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12

I can't see why players wouldn't sign for this, guild wars is supposed to be a free game. Sure things like the BMP and extra slots should be paid for, as its extra content. We already have this content and it should never have required real money. NC Soft already have enough money from their other MMORPG'S.

/signed for the justic and freedom of players, it should be 1gold z-coin tops...

Bob Slydell · Jun 07, 2009, 12:59 AM // 00:59

I think I signed already but I also wanna add that you guys should stop wasting your time debating on something that Isn't gonna go anywhere. I do get mad when a game company can add a few lines of code and charge money for you to send a data packet from your client to the server to change your characters looks....but business is business. If you were the president of ArenaNet/NCSoft at this very moment you'd do the same thing, I would!

But Anet also added storage that you can buy, thats something that you would think would be purchased a lot more then makeovers...

How many times will you seriously buy a makeover of your character before it becomes some kind of addiction losing 10 bucks here and there to change a stupid haircut when you might even wear a helmet half the time!!!!??!!?? Once Hopefully? It cost's 10 bucks rounded off and anyone would be a fool to buy more then a couple makeovers and get different hair or a different face out of it and not have anything else from it. On the otherhand... it costs 10 bucks for an extra storage pane, an actual constructive investment...

I will not spend 10 bucks for a makeover, lol... That 10 bucks will go to another char slot or another storage pane or 10 bucks towards a $14.99 payment for a month of eq2, where i can constantly change my character's looks more broadly for 1 Gold in game.

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 07, 2009, 01:55 AM // 01:55

I wanna make my ele look like Hitler! SIGNED! lol, JUST KIDDING! I DID NOT MEAN IT! but it would be better, some people cant afford 10$ because of bill funds.

Miss Puddles · Jun 08, 2009, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Trylo

is this even realistic? the makeover credits are linked to your account, not to a character. they are not inventory items. that makes me think that it would be impossible to trade coins for them, but i do not know how easily implemented this would be in a computer programming sense.

I imagine this as something similar to how you redeem points from the XTH. Talk to the stylist NPC on any character and the zcoins will show in your inventory? Toss em in storage to use them on another character, seems easy to me.

Nofew · Jun 09, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

/notsigned

I'd much rather pay $15 a few times rather than $20 every month. It might seem like a pain for a few minutes, but it's a lot better than spending $1,000, right?

Bob Slydell · Jun 11, 2009, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by Nofew

/notsigned

I'd much rather pay $15 a few times rather than $20 every month. It might seem like a pain for a few minutes, but it's a lot better than spending $1,000, right?

20 for what? Its 14.99

Drelias Melaku · Nov 04, 2009, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Necro'ing this thread instead of creating a new one...

It's been said that you can get the skill unlock pack through gameplay, and unlock all the pets in the menagerie, etc etc, or you could buy the pack from the in-game store.

People like me would still buy makeover packs because it's a LOT easier to buy two makeover packs than to build up the 20 coins or so for ten different characters. The problem is, even after we buy a pack or two, we may have some characters left over that haven't gotten a change, but could benefit from one. I, for one, would love to change my ranger and spare monk with z-coins, rather than buying a THIRD pack for just two characters.

I'm for z-coins for makeover credits, or having more options for packs, like two credits for $5.